Vampire Lestat
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Oct 28, 2008 23:17:26 GMT -4
Lol, take it you love bards?
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Post by Hazmatt on Oct 29, 2008 9:10:41 GMT -4
I like them in NWN, and some other RPGs. I don't know if I'd like playing them in PnP... and from what I hear, I may not like what 4e is going to do to bards.
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Oct 29, 2008 9:20:46 GMT -4
That sucks. See if you can't play a singing droid in you star wars campaign.
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Post by Lord Surge on Oct 30, 2008 16:22:28 GMT -4
Bards are fantastically fun to play in PnP.
For me anyway.
I don't know, I think that they're not available yet is a good thing. I'd hate to see what they did to them. Specific examples of horrors inflicted include: Non Lawful, Non good paladins?! Magic Missiles requiring a to-hit roll?! And other such fun tweaks.
I'm pretty sure there are performer classes and prestige classes in Star Wars though.
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Post by Hazmatt on Oct 30, 2008 16:48:55 GMT -4
If what I'm hearing is correct, Bards will be Leader types, and lose a lot of the "Jack of all trades, master of none" type features.
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Oct 30, 2008 22:11:37 GMT -4
What's the point to them then? They're not meant to be leaders. They're wanderers and nothing more.
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Post by Hazmatt on Oct 31, 2008 23:08:42 GMT -4
Well, leader in the 4e sense. Each class is considered either a striker, controller, defender or leader. These classifications don't really have much to do with how you roleplay your character, so much as how they work together using 4e's battle rules. According to the PHB, "Leaders inspire, heal, and aid the other characters in an adventuring group. Leaders have good defenses, but their strength lies in powers that protect their companions and target specific foes for the party to concentrate on." Given that definition, you can see how a Bard's buffing tendencies put them in that role.
...but I do think that's a dumb definition of Leader.
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Nov 1, 2008 0:17:13 GMT -4
Ah and yeah it is.
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Post by Lord Surge on Nov 2, 2008 13:26:10 GMT -4
Indeed.
Like I said, it's a lot more like an MMORPG than it should be.
Also, Warlocks are insane and do silly amounts of damage. Really.
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Nov 13, 2008 0:13:22 GMT -4
Man I really want this server back up. Only problme is I'd probaly be the only one playing it. =(
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Post by Lord Surge on Nov 16, 2008 2:46:42 GMT -4
So sure?
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Nov 16, 2008 19:59:46 GMT -4
Yeah, I can't find another server to take its place.
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Post by Lord Surge on Nov 16, 2008 23:47:36 GMT -4
Indeed, slim pickings these days.
A shame most of Itropa's faithful have since left.
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Post by Vampire Lestat on Nov 17, 2008 13:30:06 GMT -4
If someone where to host it again I'd try to get the word about it out there.
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Post by Hazmatt on Nov 18, 2008 11:22:43 GMT -4
I'd still have to update it to make it compatible with the latest patches.
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